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<v ->God hates fags, god hates fag enablers,</v>

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your duty in this life, if you listen to Solomon,

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he said, "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter.

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"Fear god and keep his commandments,

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"for this is the whole duty of man."

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It was almost a year after we left

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that I finally looked back at some old videos.

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It was so surreal.

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We had all these ideas and it didn't matter

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what the impact was on people, on human beings.

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Everyone in the world, you could just lay them waste

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on the altar of these ideas

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and how certain we were that they were true.

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Thank God for September 11.

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He gave you that warning and space to repent.

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You people of Sodom just rebel more.

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This land will be a desolation.

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Isaiah One.

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I thought, "This is great, this is proof

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"that god is punishing this nation

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"and maybe now people will listen to us,

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"now they'll understand that they've done these things

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"to incur the wrath of god and that's why,

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"that's why this is happening."

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When you believe that, you have this view of humanity

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as essentially, most of it, worthless,

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just entirely, entirely worthless

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and deserving of complete destruction, which is part of why

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we were celebrating those things, those tragedies.

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800,000 expected at Chicago Pride today.

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WBC was there to remind them:

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sin and shame is what you have, not anything worth pride.

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Since leaving, we've spent a lot of time

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talking with people that we used to see as wicked.

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And it was us versus them and we didn't want anything

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to do with them and when you come at it

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with that perspective, you're not really seeing them

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as they are, you're seeing this projected image

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that you kinda put on them.

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So we were really surprised when we started spending time

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with them and seeing that they were amazing people

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doing wonderful things and they were well-intentioned,

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they weren't just evil or stupid or delusional

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or led around by Satan, they're just people

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trying to live their lives and trying

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to do what they think is right.

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I did nothing to deserve the godly parents I have

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in Dear Shirley and WBC diplomat,

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such are all god's blessings.

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The church was our entire community,

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they were the people that we spent time with

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and worked with and we didn't have friends

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or people outside so in that time before we left,

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when we were thinking about leaving

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and just for the first time, having this idea

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that it was even a possibility was like watching everyone

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that we loved, it was like they were all dying.

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Because we knew that it was gonna be gone

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and so that was a terrifying prospect

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and also knowing that by leaving,

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we were gonna be hurting them terribly.

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And that was the last thing that we wanted.

