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<v Van>This is Van Jones.</v>

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I'm a television host.

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<v ->We saw in a video that you,</v>

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it looks like you took this to CPAC,

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and actually, you know, gave it to some people to try out.

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Talk a little bit about that experience,

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you know, why you want to do it,

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and also, you know,

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kind of what you walked away from that experience with.

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<v ->Well, this is a part of my life.</v>

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I am, you know, strong democrat, worked for President Obama.

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I'm at CNN, I'm not at Fox.

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And yet, I have found that when you really care about

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the people who are at the bottom,

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The people who are desperately poor,

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or who are addicted, or who are imprisoned,

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or who have mental health issues.

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Those folks, whether they're talking about Appalachia,

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the hood, Native American reservation, the border,

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they tend to have the same basic problems.

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About 80% overlap.

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Might have a little bit more racism here,

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a little bit more classism over there.

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But you got the same basic problems,

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and neither political party, from my point of view,

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does enough to help the addicted,

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the afflicted, and the convicted.

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And so, I've never been able to get a bill passed,

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or get something done to help anybody,

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where I didn't wind up working

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with republicans and democrats.

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So I'm bipartisan because

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I'm so passionate about my progressive values.

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And what we wanted to do

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is to take this experience to CPAC.

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Take it to the biggest gathering of conservatives,

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you know, in this hemisphere.

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And just open our hearts up and say,

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here's what we've got to share with you.

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And we saw people taking off their MAGA hats,

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taking off their "Make America Great" hats,

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taking off their NRA hats, and putting on those visors.

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And as you saw in that video,

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three and a half minutes later,

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said "I didn't understand before.

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I didn't understand what it meant

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to be an African American kid

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in a car getting pulled over by a police officer

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with police dogs, et cetera.

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I just had never thought about it"

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And all we want is more understanding.

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We didn't go there

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to get them to change who they're going to vote for.

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It's a democracy, you can vote for who you want to.

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That's the whole point.

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Dictatorship, you can only vote for one person.

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Democracy, you vote for who you want to.

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But, we want people to vote with more understanding.

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And after the election

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to be able to have more understanding.

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And that's what we, I think,

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we achieved a little bit at CPAC

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<v ->Yeah, yeah.</v>