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[muffled crowd murmuring]

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<v ->Stay safe.
- When are we going down?</v>

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<v Andrew>I was intellectually prepared</v>

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for something like this to happen-

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[muffled crowd murmuring]

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<v ->And yet it was shocking to see.</v>

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[thudding]
[group shouting]

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Anytime something like this happens,

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the response you tend to get
from your standard politician

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is this is a shocking aberration.

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This is not who we are.

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<v ->The scenes of chaos at the Capitol</v>

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do not reflect a true America,

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do not represent who we are.

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<v ->The problem with that
is that, of course,</v>

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the events of today represent
an America that we know of.

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It's happening right now in America.

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It makes us pretend that
history can only progress

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in one direction, that we
just sort of have to wait

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for the tough things to pass,

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and our glorious future
will be there to greet us,

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which blinds us to the fact

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that we have really put ourselves
in a terrible predicament

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in large part because of social media.

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[group cheering]

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All the big social networks
are fundamentally built

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around inciting emotional engagement,

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and that can be fear, rage,
[woman spitting]

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lust, xenophobia.
[muffled shouting]

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It could also be humor and nostalgia

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and those kind of nice things,

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but it's just easier to make people scared

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than it is to make them
feel warm and fuzzy.

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These are the only things that
the algorithms can measure.

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They don't know how to measure
for truth or civic virtue

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or the inherent quality of an
image or something like that,

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so they very quickly
become this competition

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to tap into people's basest emotions.

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<v Man>Fake news, no more!</v>

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<v ->What you'll see in the wake of this</v>

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is what you see in the wake

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of every high-profile
disturbance or tragedy,

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which is you'll see all
the platforms making a few

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very visible decisions to
ban this or that person

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or this or that account,
and that may be good.

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That may be better than nothing,

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but they're not changing

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their fundamental underlying structures.

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They're not changing their incentive,

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they're not changing their business model,

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so it's just window dressing.

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[crowd shouting]
[coughing]

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When you hear someone like Joe Biden

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trying to call us to our better instincts,

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trying to paint a more optimistic
picture of human nature,

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I think that there's a lot
about that that is defensible.

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I don't think that the
only way to respond to that

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is to say, "No, you're naive.

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You're whitewashing history.

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Of course, this is who we are."

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I think either form of that essentialism

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and determinism, in a way,
is kind of missing the point

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or is at least far too reductive.

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It's actually convenient
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and social media companies to bandy about

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kind of half-baked notions of human nature

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so that they can use those
notions of human nature

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to support whatever
they were inclined to do

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in the first place.

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You can say, "Well, I won an election,

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so I have a national mandate,
so that's who we are,"

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or "I run a social media platform,

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so I want us to be able
to express ourselves

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because that's who we are."

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[snare drum music]
[crowd shouting]

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It's much harder for someone who's running

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a social media platform to talk
about improving the material

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and structural and
psychological conditions

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in the lives of their users

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and how you can make it less
likely that those conditions

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will lead people to fear
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and xenophobia and all the rest of it.

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That's a much tougher,
multi-layered problem.

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It's much easier to say,
"Well, I believe in people

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and I'm optimistic that they're
better than this," right,

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because that lets you off the hook.

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The long arc of history
doesn't just bend itself.

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We have to do the work of bending it.

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